Admins incompetence

[.Witto]

I wish to start of that right here, I am just posting couple of facts and I am not taking sides or judging any players - I am judging the admins. To be exact, the ones that go on Roleplay.

From the last few day's I've been gathering some intel on the server by using my friends PC and anothers one laptop. What we basically did, was go everyday with two accounts when admin was on and TRIED to roleplay, at least start playing on the server. One of them, wages 3 and second one - wages 8.

What happened? Exactly as I was predicting, we've been DM'ed, if you ask me AGAIN "what means DM to you Witto :/? It's not that easy Witto :/" - I will say: Bullshit. Wages three account was being spotted untill the PVP protection ended and then got DM'ed. Wages 8 was Dm'ed about 4 minutes after each join, while going both A3 members and inc. members.

Here are the stats:
Day 1 - We've been DM'ed 71 times in total, 2 admins online
Day 2 - We've been DM'ed 46 times, 1 admin in total
Day 3 - We've been DM'ed 103 (!) times, with an admin online
Day 4 (Today) - During 21 gameplay time mins we've been DM'ed 24 times, because it was Icity, 1 admin online

Also, to make me SURE the admins saw the DM, what I did was go around admin and when started to get DM'ed I ran to him to die NEXT to him. After each kill I did the "sad face" and asked admin about rules, anti DM - I've been ignored. Actually only Ivan took care to say "Don't kill the low wager". No admin kicked, warned or did anything to stop me from being DM'ed.

I wish to say from whole 3 admins that were on RP during those 4 days, NONE of them answered me - NONE of them warned the DM'ers - NONE of them cared - 2 used to stay in admin suits all the time.

To conclude, I wish to blame admins for the DM'ing on the servers, for the war on the servers and for not enabling newbies to get a decent game time. Because you are the ones who can make a change and it is your fault that you choose not to. This thread in made to support newbies, who actually still come around but leave fast while killed all the damn time. Think it over...

[jool]

I support witto 100% even if there is still some good admins on RP.

[Icewind]

I fully understand you!
I think, I can count me to these admins (cause I'm very often on any rp server last days).
I'll try to take a better care for new players.

But had I been online while you asking questions like this?

Only bad thing: There's no rule that forbid to fight against low wage ppl. We only can ask the players nicely to stop. And sometimes the new players attack others. Why they shouldn't be defeated?

[Dr.Breen]

Witto, are you referring to me? I can't remember anyone asked me about the dm-rules in the last few days . The players which killed you, they was always the same? You can PM me the names of these guys, so can I watch them.

Only bad thing: There's no rule that forbid to fight against low wage ppl. We only can ask the players nicely to stop. And sometimes the new players attack others. Why they shouldn't be defeated?

Hmm, I'm pretty sure we can ban for "killing new players". But if a low-wage guy get a weapon, he will attack everything whats just moving..

[Icewind]

Hmm, I'm pretty sure we can ban for "killing new players". But if a low-wage guy get a weapon, he will attack everything whats just moving..

Sure?
Protest-flood incoming

But I think if we kick those guys they'll stop it.
(Like I do it with propjumping. Beeing forceful, then it takes effect)

[jool]

We just want the old rules to be back. No massive dming. Make a plugin that block the maximum number of kills of low-waged. Something like

wage 0-5

You can kill him only 3 times until he dont attack you

wage 5-10

You can kill him only 4 times until he dont attack you

wage 10-15

you can kill him only 5 times until he dont attack you

Maybe is it a bad idea I don't really know...

[RipeR]

+1 witto - I dont help new players often alot but it pays off to you they help u and respect u.
+1 jool - Good idea

[Dr.Breen]

Protest-flood incoming

Huhh? Why "Protest"? Do you mean "Report"?
But the new players need to report the dmer himself. But the most of them don't know about the forum and they also don't know how to report.

[.Witto]

Breen I am not giving any admins names, referring overall to admins I can tell you some names over Steam when you're online.

@Icewind: "There's no rule that forbid to fight against low wage ppl."
The point is: I didn't fight back, I ran away trying to hide. I didn't give out single shot, was running UNarmed and with NO crime. That is DM.

Again, Breens last post. If was constantly killed while having 3 wages, I wouldn't report... I would ask admin for assistance if he is on the server, he wouldn't help me... that means I am just going to leave the server. I admit that you can report someone for DM if no admin is around, but if 2 of them walk and do nothing? :/

@jool: No one is going to count amounts of kills someone did to a newbie. Remember that newbies join clans and they've got supplied with weapons. My post just is to point out that there a newbies, not low wagers who would like to calmly play. If they don't kill anyone and just want to gather some cash, why would they get killed constantly?

[irishboy]

Being shot around every corner is annoying to be honest, again if we disallow DM, people will quit, it's not like anyone's there to actually roleplay.

[jool]

I just watched your image after your post and I lold irishboy xD

[Streamline]

I have this idea, i think iwe told it before, but i would like 2 have a job that gives you perm PvP secure/godmode. This skin can only be used when you havent done a crime for 30min. And you cant kill anyone when having this job

[Chris@GPOINT]

Maybe i can tell Chanz my idea again, of every heal-item you can only have 1... but he need to fix that buy-bug cause normally we already can set items unique but its not working if it is your first buy. 
 
So it will be really hard to bind all the time, you would need 1 of every heal-item and you need one bind for every little heal-item.
 
 
 
/EDIT: Or of every item. If you lost your weapon in real i think you dont have 9001 new mags in your pocket. 

[Streamline]

Maybe i can tell Chanz my idea again, of every heal-item you can only have 1... but he need to fix that buy-bug cause normally we already can set items unique but its not working if it is your first buy. 
 
So it will be really hard to bind all the time, you would need 1 of every heal-item and you need one bind for every little heal-item.

I dont like this idea, i got like suits and food for 50k :/
But if we get the money back, im fine

[jool]

I dont like this idea, i got like suits and food for 50k :/
But if we get the money back, im fine

And I lost about 50k of stun, suits, mag and shooty cause of those binders.