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Offline Yamato Takenouchi

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Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« on: 29. November 2008, 10:22:10 »
Some cops (at least I do) are tired of hunting down people with the riod prod. People can easely dm and kill off cops, so they can keep on doing whats against the set server rules.

My idea: make the pistol non-damaging, but when shot, it makes the person who is being hit incapable of using weapons for a  period of time (hitting the arm making him immobile), whilst still being able to run and heal (You only need 1 arm to heal, talk or use the phone). The only way making you able to use weapons again is outwaiting ( a part of) your crime period, or getting to a specific point in the game making the person mobile again. You could also be cuffed and then healed by the cop, making you able to run around again when you're uncuffed. This should effectivly short circuit every tendency of actual death matching instead of roleplaying.

Hard to put into a game, it might be a worthwhile idea?
« Last Edit: 29. November 2008, 10:22:58 by Yamato Takenouchi »
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #1 on: 30. November 2008, 02:14:31 »
About the "not being able to use weapons":

Every weapon that is 2 handed is useless if you can only use 1 arm.
The revolver, being 1 handed can't be used because you can't aim effectivly with your wrong hand. You can also not reload as it takes 2 hands.

You can open doors, use medkits, interact.. trade, play gamble.. you name it.
You can also still use the crowbar. As it doesn't need accuracy except a good swing, this weapon doesn't require actual 2 hands to be used. You can also defend yourself still.

You don't aim for the legs, so people can still run around.
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #2 on: 30. November 2008, 04:16:06 »
hmmz, looks a bit hard, but i could be cool to make a gun that makes them immobile or non weapon using (while they still can be killed) so cops dont have to run everytime to free them in jail..

btw first post :D

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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #3 on: 01. December 2008, 06:18:11 »
As cop you spawn every time again with all your weapons and well if you are not fast enough as cop they can escape thats how the gameplay sould be. You try to catch 'em and they try to escape.

So because you are slower than the criminals you want a long distance weapon to slow them down. That would be unfair for the rebels and then someone says:"hey this police gun which slows me down is unfair maybe you can do it like that..." so we have to fight against our own program code all the time. ;)

So I don't think this is a good idea...




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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #4 on: 01. December 2008, 07:19:11 »
As cop you spawn every time again with all your weapons and well if you are not fast enough as cop they can escape thats how the gameplay sould be. You try to catch 'em and they try to escape.

So because you are slower than the criminals you want a long distance weapon to slow them down. That would be unfair for the rebels and then someone says:"hey this police gun which slows me down is unfair maybe you can do it like that..." so we have to fight against our own program code all the time. ;)

So I don't think this is a good idea...

You know you should read both replies before responding?

I was talking about the abuse of weapons. People who are using open spots, while sticking close to the weapons dealer (bug) to pack out a dming match.

I never mentioned cuffing people nor slowing them down with a hand pistol. You just make them incapable of using ranged weapons in matters of dming. The crowbar isn't ranged and can be used as a last resort of selfdefense in case people try to get everything wrecked. You still have to stunprod him to make him cuffed and sent to jail.

I also mentioned on the above, healed numbness when cuffed.

You're not supposed to empty your magazine on moving targets. This idea is esplicitly thought out for open spot shootings with stand along characters who hide and shoot instead of run.

They can still run and escape. After a while, this "numbness" wears off making them able to use weapons again. I'm not stating that you must buy the weapons again, more sent to crowbar mode and can't get off it until the so called "numbness" has dissappeared.

Cops are ment to retain balance in the game. Dmers unbalance the situation. It should also get alot of work off admins their hands. Instead of banning everyone with a walhalla crimepoint list, this could effectivly ban dming.
« Last Edit: 01. December 2008, 07:19:17 by Yamato Takenouchi »
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #5 on: 01. December 2008, 07:19:23 »
Some cops (at least I do) are tired of hunting down people with the riod prod. People can easely dm and kill off cops, so they can keep on doing whats against the set server rules.

My idea: make the pistol non-damaging, but when shot, it makes the person who is being hit incapable of using weapons for a  period of time (hitting the arm making him immobile), whilst still being able to run and heal (You only need 1 arm to heal, talk or use the phone). The only way making you able to use weapons again is outwaiting ( a part of) your crime period, or getting to a specific point in the game making the person mobile again. You could also be cuffed and then healed by the cop, making you able to run around again when you're uncuffed. This should effectivly short circuit every tendency of actual death matching instead of roleplaying.

Hard to put into a game, it might be a worthwhile idea?

Better than a worthwhile idea. It will benefit police who try to catch someone who is far off. Think it could be pulled off?

Your too slow.
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #6 on: 02. December 2008, 12:00:49 »
oh ok now I get you sorry  ::) I take back what I said about your speed. ^^

Now well this numbness would be a idea to get rid of those 'snipers' and 'campers' yeah.

Well I keep that in mind and if we got some time then we maybe implement it but I can't promise it. ;)



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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #7 on: 02. December 2008, 11:23:08 »
i dont think it wud be a good idea :( becuz if u hav a shotgun or smg wat will happen will u lose them or will the cops get them so it doesnt make much sense ???
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #8 on: 02. December 2008, 11:23:02 »
i dont think it wud be a good idea :( becuz if u hav a shotgun or smg wat will happen will u lose them or will the cops get them so it doesnt make much sense ???

They can still run and escape. After a while, this "numbness" wears off making them able to use weapons again. I'm not stating that you must buy the weapons again, more sent to crowbar mode and can't get off it until the so called "numbness" has dissappeared.


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« Last Edit: 02. December 2008, 11:23:04 by Yamato Takenouchi »
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #9 on: 02. December 2008, 11:23:07 »
OK HOW DO U PLAN ON MAKING THE GUNS DISABLED THAT HAS 2 BE HAR ??? >:(D FOR THE ADMINS
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #10 on: 02. December 2008, 11:23:43 »
OK HOW DO U PLAN ON MAKING THE GUNS DISABLED THAT HAS 2 BE HAR ??? >:(D FOR THE ADMINS

You tell me. It's already said it might not be easy to implement it.
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« Reply #11 on: 02. December 2008, 11:23:53 »
 ;D ;D ;D THANK U YAMATO ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #12 on: 09. December 2008, 01:01:45 »
I think that it will be just a usless plugin[No offence yamato] because it will 1. Be very long and hard{thats what she said} to do and 2. It will take up a big amount of Space. So I see why you want to do it but I think that the reasons above^^ would explain why.



PS:Can an admin organize a gauranteed pole like we vote on the next update we want in the RP server.

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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #13 on: 09. December 2008, 01:01:23 »
yamato you lost worth im my eyes

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Re: Make the hand pistol for cops only and non lethal.
« Reply #14 on: 09. December 2008, 02:14:38 »
yamato you lost worth im my eyes

Not needed, off-topic.

But don't we need Manni's opinion for the pistol as well?

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